PHILLIP CHAMBERS, Sworn In For The Defendant, 83rd To Testify

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PHILLIP CHAMBERS, sworn for the Defendant.

I am 15 years old.

I started working for them December 12, 1912, as office boy, at the pencil factory.

I left there March 29, 1913.

I stayed in the outer office.

On Saturdays I stayed until 4:30 and sometimes until 5 o'clock.

I never left before 4:30 on Saturdays.

I would go to dinner about 1:30 and get back at 2.

Sometimes on Saturdays I would be sent to Montag's for 15 minutes, to get the mail.

I would sometimes go out to the Bell Street plant to get the pay roll there.

I would get back at 12 o'clock.

Mr. Frank never did have any women in there.

I never saw any drinking there.

I have never seen Dalton come in there.

I have seen Jim Conley sweeping there Saturday afternoon.

Snowball would be in there once in a while.

I have never known the front door to be locked on Saturday afternoon.

After a certain time all the sweepers, including Conley and Snowball, had to leave the factory at noon.

Mr. Darley gave them orders they could not sweep in the afternoon.

After that I never saw any of them around there Saturday afternoon.

I have never seen anybody watching the door on any Saturday that I was there, or any other day.

I have seen Mr. Frank's wife come to his office once.

Mr. Schiff would be helping him on some of the Saturdays that I would be there.

I have never seen Mr. Frank familiar with any of the women in the factory.

I have never seen him talk to Mary Phagan at all.

CROSS EXAMINATION.

Mr. Frank and I were good friends, just like a boss ought to be to me.

I don't know anything about Mr. Frank's telling Conley to come around and not let Mr. Darley see him.