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C E POLLARD, Sworn In For The State, 40th To Testify

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C. E. POLLARD, sworn for the Defendant.I am an expert accountant. I was called into this matter for the purpose of seeing the length of time it would take to gather these figures and get the result on the financial sheet and other papers that were furnished me. I studied each sheet and when I was sure of what the result would be I would lay that sheet down and make a copy of it. I would take time myself for each operation. There was a discrepancy of one and one-half gross on the factory records in the figures, out

MISS HATTIE HALL, Sworn In For The State, 41st To Testify

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`MISS HATTIE HALL, sworn for the defendant.I am a stenographer for the National Pencil Company. I do most ofthe work in the office of Montag Bros. Whenever it is necessary I godown to the National Pencil factory and do work there. I saw Mr. Frankabout ten o'clock of the morning of April 26th, at Montag Bros. , when hecame over there that morning. He came in Mr. Sig Montag's office, whereI was taking dictation and I told him that I didn't know whether I wouldbe able to go over there that morning or not, as Mr. Montag was givingme letters

MISS CORINTHIA HALL, Sworn In For The State, 42nd To Testify

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MISS CORINTHIA HALL, sworn for the Defendant.I work in the finishing up department of the pencil factory. I am aforelady. I was at the factory on April 26th, I got there about 25 minutesto twelve. I had to come to town on the East Lake car and got totown about 11:30 and it took me about five minutes to reach the factory.Mrs. Emma Clarke Freeman was with me. She had spent the night withme. We went there after her coat and to telephone, to call up Mrs. Free-man's husband. We went up to the fourth floor to get the coat

MRS EMMA CLARKE FREEMAN, Sworn In For The State, 43rd To Testify

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MRS. EMMA CLARKE FREEMAN, sworn for the Defendant.I married on April 25th. I worked at the pencil factory before that,at the time I was married. I was paid off on April 25th by Mr. Schiff.On the 26th I reached the factory with Miss Hall about 25 minutes to 12.I saw Mr. Frank at his office. He was talking to two men when we wentin. Mrs. White and Mr. Frank's stenographer were also in the office.Mr. Frank gave us permission to go up on the fourth floor to get my coat.While we were going up the steps Mr. Frank called to

MISS EULA MAY FLOWERS, Sworn In For The State, 44th To Testify

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MISS EULA MAY FLOWERS, sworn for the Defendant.I did not work at the factory on Saturday, April 26th. I workedthere Friday, the 25th, in the packing department. Mr. Schiff got fromme the data for the financial sheet on Friday night at ten minutes to six.It was the production for the entire week from my department. It covers all the different classes of work where the goods were finished.CROSS EXAMINATION.I always turn those reports in Friday night or early Saturday morning.They don't touch Friday's work.MISS EULA MAY FLOWERS, Sworn In For The State, 44th To Testify

MISS MAGNOLIA KENNEDY, Sworn In For The State, 45th To Testify

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MISS MAGNOLIA KENNEDY, sworn for the Defendant.I have been working for the pencil factory for about four years, inthe metal department. I drew my pay on Friday, April 25th, from Mr.Schiff at the pay window. Helen Ferguson was there when I went upthere. I was behind her and had my hand on her shoulder. Mr. Frankwas not there, Mr. Schiff gave Helen Ferguson her pay envelope. HelenFerguson did not ask Mr. Schiff for Mary Phagan's money. I came outright behind Helen Ferguson. We waited for Grace Hicks and then wentdown stairs. Helen didn't say anything about Mr. Frank at all.

WADE CAMPBELL, Sworn In For The State, 46th To Testify

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WADE CAMPBELL, sworn for the Defendant.I have been working for the pencil factory for about a year and ahalf. I had a conversation with my sister, Mrs. Arthur White, on Mon-day, April 28th. She told me that she had seen a negro sitting at the elevator shaft when she went in the factory at twelve o'clock on Saturdayand that she came out at 12:30, she heard low voices, but couldn't seeanybody. On April 26th, I got to the factory about 9:30. Mr. Frank wasin his outer office. He was laughing and joking with people there, andjoked with me. He thought

LEMMIE QUINN, Sworn In For The State, 47th To Testify

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LEMMIE QUINN, sworn for the Defendant.I am foreman of the metal department. Barrett pointed out to mewhere he claimed to have found blood spots on the metal room floor. Heasked me whether I thought that he (Barrett) would get the reward ifFrank were convicted. He told me that several people told him that hehad a good chance to get the reward. He said a fellow told him that hewould get $2700 one time and $4500 the other time. He mentioned thatreward to me on several occasions. The floor of the metal room is verydirty. You could not tell at the

HARRY DENHAM, Sworn In For The State, 48th To Testify

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HARRY DENHAM, sworn for the Defendant.I work on the fourth floor of the pencil factory. I was paid off Friday,April 25th. I came back Saturday to do some work. Mr. Darleyasked me to come back. I had to work on the machinery when it was notrunning. That was the only time I could do it. I got there about 7:30.Mr. Holloway was there when I got there. Between 12 and 1 o'clock Iwas working on the varnish machine. We were hammering. We workeduntil ten minutes after 3. We began to take an old partition out and putin a new one

MAGNOLIA “MINOLA” MCKNIGHT, Colored, Sworn In For The State, 49th To Testify

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  MINOLA Mc Knight (colored), sworn for the Defendant. I work for Mrs. Selig. I cook for her. Mr. and Mrs. Frank live with Mr. and Mrs. Selig. His wife is Mrs. Selig's daughter. I cooked breakfast for the family on April 26th. Mr. Frank finished breakfast a little after seven o'clock. Mr. Frank came to dinner about 20 minutes after one that day. That was not the dinner hour, but Mrs. Frank and Mrs. Selig were going off on the two o'clock car. They were already eating when Mr. Frank came in. My husband, Albert Mc Knight, wasn't in

EMIL SELIG, Sworn In For The State, 50th To Testify

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EMIL SELIG, sworn for the Defendant.I am Mr. Frank's father-in-law. My wife and I live with Mr. Frankand his wife. The kitchen in our house is next to the dining room. Thereis a small passage way between them. The sideboard in the dining roomis in the same position now, as it has always been. Mr. Frank took breakfast before I did on April 26th and left the house before I breakfasted. I got back home to dinner about 1:15. My wife and Mrs. Frank were eatingthen. They told me in the morning to come home a little sooner, thatthey wanted

MRS EMIL SELIG, Sworn In For The State, 51st To Testify

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MRS. EMIL SELIG, sworn for the Defendant.I am Mrs. Frank's mother* (mother-in-law). Mr. and Mrs. Frank have been living with us two years. The sideboard is in the same position it always has been except when we sweep under it. We had lunch on April 26th after 1 o'clock, about ten minutes past one. Mr. Frank came about twenty minutes past one while we were eating. He sat down with us and ate. Mrs. Frank and I left before he did. We left about half past one. He was still eating at the table. After the opera, while we were

MISS HELEN KERNS, Sworn In For The State, 52nd To Testify

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MISS HELEN KERNS, sworn for the Defendant.I work for the Dodson Medicine Company as stenographer. Myfather works for Montag. I took shorthand under Professor Briscoelast winter. I have seen Mr. Frank in his factory. I went there withProfessor Briscoe to get a job. I didn't get the position. I was workingon the 26th day of April for Bennett Printing Company. That day I gotoff about 12 o'clock. I then went around in town to the different storesand did some trading. I had an appointment to meet a girl at 1:15 at thecorner of Whitehall and Alabama Streets, at Jacobs' Drug

MRS A P LEVY, Sworn In For The State, 53rd To Testify

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MRS. A. P. LEVY, sworn for the Defendant.I live right across the street from where Mr. Frank lives. I am nota relation of his either by blood or marriage. I saw him get off a car onMemorial Day between one and two o'clock. I was dressing to go to thematinee and was watching the cars as they passed to look out for my sonwho was late to dinner and saw Mr. Frank get off the car and cross thestreet to his home. I had a clock on my dresser and also one in the diningroom, and I was hurrying to

MRS M G MICHAEL, Sworn In For The State, 54th To Testify

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MRS. M. G. MICHAEL, sworn for the Defendant.I live in Athens. On April 26th, I was at 387 Washington Street at2 o'clock, at the residence of my sister Mrs. Wolfsheimer. Mrs. Frankis my niece by marriage. I am no kin to Mr. Frank. I saw Mr. Frankabout 2 o'clock on April 26th. He was going up Washington Street towardstown when I first saw him. I remembered it was about 2 o'clock,because my son David was going to the matinee and he had to leave homebefore 2, and he had just left a few minutes when I saw Mr. Frank. I

JEROME MICHAEL, Sworn In For The State, 55th To Testify

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JEROME MICHAEL, sworn for the Defendant.I live in Athens. I was in Atlanta on April 26th. I took dinner atMrs. Wolfsheimer's residence at 387 Washington Street. I saw Mr.Frank upon that day between five minutes to 2 and 2 o'clock. I know itwas that time because I had an engagement with a young lady and I hada watch in my hand most of the time. My brother Dave had just left forthe opera when Mr. Frank came up. When I first saw him he was goingtoward the right hand corner of Washington Street and Georgia Avenue,going up Georgia Avenue. I

MRS HENNIE WOLFSHEIMER, Sworn In For The State, 56th To Testify

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MRS. HENNIE WOLFSHEIMER, sworn for the Defendant.I am the aunt of Mrs. Frank. I live at 387 Washington Street, thethird house from the corner of Georgia Avenue. On April 26th, I sawMr. Frank in front of my house. It was about 2 o'clock. We had finisheddinner which we ate at half past one. I was not on the porch whenhe came up but I walked out on the porch after he came. I did not seehim catch the car as I was called in the house before he left. I saw nothingunusual about him. No nervousness or bruises or scratches.

JULIAN LOEB, Sworn In For The State, 57th To Testify

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JULIAN LOEB, sworn for the Defendant.I live at 380 Washington Street, across the street from the Wolfsheimer residence. I am a cousin of Mrs. Frank. I saw Mr. Frank onApril 26th in front of the Wolfsheimer residence. I was there when hecame by. It was between 1:50 and 2 o'clock. He was talking to Mrs.Michael and Mr. Jerome Michael and was inviting them to attend a meetingof the B'nai B 'rith lodge on the next day which was Sunday. He waspresident of that lodge. He left and walked towards town up WashingtonStreet towards Glenn. I didn't see him catch the

COHEN LOEB, Sworn In For The State, 58th To Testify

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COHEN LOEB, sworn for the Defendant.I was on the car with Mr. Frank going back to town on April 26thafter lunch. I caught the car at Georgia Avenue and Washington Street.He caught the car at Glenn and Washington Street which is one blocknearer town. That was about 2 o'clock. It was a Washington Street carwhich goes straight up Washington Street to the Capitol and turns downHunter. We sat together on the same seat in the car. Mr. Frank got offthe car about two or three minutes before I did. He got off in front ofthe Capitol at about 2:10. The

H J HINCHEY, Sworn In For The State, 59th To Testify

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H. J. HINCHEY, sworn for the Defendant.I have known Mr. Frank between four and five years. I am mechanical engineer for the South Atlantic Blow Pipe Co. I saw Mr. Frank on April 26th opposite the main entrance to the Capitol on WashingtonStreet. I was driving an automobile. He was on the street car comingdown Washington Street going to town. I saw him but did not speak tohim. It was between 2 and 2:15. As to how I knew that was the time afterthis matter came up I experimented to see just what time it was Isaw him on the

MISS REBECCA CARSON, Sworn In For The State, 60th To Testify

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MISS REBECCA CARSON, sworn for the Defendant.I work at the National Pencil Co. I have been there over three years.I work on the fourth floor. I am forelady of the sorting department. Ihave from thirteen to fifteen girls under me. At times I have heard theelevator running when the machinery in the factory was not running. Itmakes a noticeable noise. You can notice the vibration of the buildingand you can notice the ropes of the elevator running, and you can hearthe cables of the elevator knocking. On Friday, April 25th, I got my payabout 5:30 from the office. On April

MRS E M CARSON, Sworn In For The State, 61st To Testify

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MRS. E. M. CARSON, sworn for the Defendant.I worked at the pencil factory three years. Rebecca Carson is mydaughter. I am a widow. I have seen blood spots around the ladies'dressing room three or four times. I was at the factory Friday morning.I left about 12:45. I saw Jim Conley on Tuesday, after the murder. He was sweeping around my table, I said, "Well, Jim, they haven't got you yet," and he says, "NO." On Wednesday I said the same thing and he answered the same thing. On Thursday when I said that to him again he said, "No, I

MISS MARY PIRK, Sworn In For The State, 62nd To Testify

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MISS MARY PIRK, sworn for the Defendant.I am one of the foreladies working at the National Pencil Co. I amat the head of the polishing department. I have been there about fiveyears. I talked with Jim Conley Monday morning after the murder. Iaccused him of the murder. He took his broom and walked right out ofthe office and I have never seen him since. His character for truth andfor veracity is bad. I would not believe him on oath.CROSS EXAMINATION.I suspected Jim as early as Monday April 28th. I did not report itto Mr. Frank then. I don't know why

MISS IORA SMALL, Sworn In For The State, 63rd To Testify

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MISS IORA SMALL, sworn for the Defendant.I worked on the fourth floor of the pencil factory for five years. Isaw Jim Conley on Tuesday. He was worrying me to get money from meto buy a newspaper and then he would come and ask me for copies of thepaper before I would get through reading them. They were extras. Hewould even get two of the same edition. He would take it and run overthere and sit on a box by the elevator and read it. He can read all right.He had on an old Norfolk coat with a belt around it

MISS JULIA FUSS, Sworn In For The State, 64th To Testify

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MISS JULIA FUSS, sworn for the Defendant.I work on the fourth floor of the pencil factory. I have never knownanything wrong or immoral to be going on in Mr. Frank's office. I talkedwith Jim Conley Wednesday morning after the murder. He was sweepingaround there and asked me to see the newspaper. As he read it he kinder grinned. He told me he believed Mr. Frank was just as innocentas the angels from Heaven. I know his general character. He was neverknown to tell the truth. I would not believe him on oath.CROSS EXAMINATION.I saw the dark red spots by the

EMMA BEARD, Colored, Sworn In For The State, 65th To Testify

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EMMA BEARD (colored), sworn for the Defendant.I am Mr. Schiff's servant. On April 26th somebody called Mr. Schiffon the telephone. I answered the telephone. It was about half past ten. It sounded like a boy's voice. It said, " I Tell Mr. Schiff Mr. Frank wanted him at the office. " Mr. Schiff was asleep at the time. I waked him up and he said, "Tell Mr. Frank I will be there as soon as I can get dressed. " And I repeated the message to the boy and told him what Mr. Schiff said. Then Mr. Schiff went back

ANNIE HIXON, Colored, Sworn In For The State, 66th To Testify

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ANNIE HIXON (colored), sworn for the Defendant.I am Mrs. Ursenbach's servant. Mr. Frank called up on the telephoneabout half past one on April 26th. I told him Mr. Ursenbach wasnot in and he said "Tell Mr. Charlie I can't go to the ball game this afternoon. " I told Mrs. Ursenbach about it.CROSS EXAMINATION.I have been working for Mrs. Ursenbach two years. Mr. Frank andhis wife came over to Mrs. Ursenbach's on Sunday after we had breakfastabout nine o'clock. They come over there every Sunday. I didn'tpay any attention to what they talked about that morning. They werejust laughing and

ALONZO MANN, Sworn In For The State, 68th To Testify

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ALONZO MANN, sworn for the Defendant.I am office boy at the National Pencil Company. I began workingthere April 1, 1913. I sit sometimes in the outer office and stand aroundin the outer hall. I left the factory at half past eleven on April 26th 1913.When I left there Miss Hall, the stenographer from Montag's, was in theoffice with Mr. Frank. Mr. Frank told me to phone to Mr. Schiff and tellhim to come down. I telephoned him, but the girl answered the phoneand said he hadn't got up yet. I telephoned once. I worked there twoSaturday afternoons of the weeks

M 0 NIX, Sworn In For The State, 69th To Testify

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M. 0. NIX, sworn for the Defendant.I am credit man for Montag Bros. and bookkeeper. I have charge ofthe bookkeeping and documents and papers of the National Pencil Company. I am familiar with Mr. Frank's handwriting. These financialsheets beginning with May 22, 1912, and ending May 24, 1913 (Defendant's Exhibit 9), are in Mr. Frank's handwriting. The eleven items beginning with order Number 7187 running through Number 7197, appearing on pages 56 and 57 of the house order book (Defendant's Exhibit 12) are in Mr. Frank's handwriting. These entries below that are in Miss Hattie Hall's handwriting.I employed Miss Hattie

HARRY GOTTHEIMER, Sworn In For The State, 70th To Testify

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HARRY GOTTHEIMER, sworn for the Defendant.I am a traveling salesman I make two trips a year for the NationalPencil Company, from the first of February to the first of April, andfrom the first of September to the fifteenth of October. I was at MontagBros. around ten o'clock on April 26th. I had come in from my trip onthe road and was writing up my orders. I had been away ten days. Mr.Frank came in after I got there. I asked him about two important orders as to their shipments and he replied that he couldn't tell whether they had been

MRS RACHEL JACOBS FRANK, Sworn In For The State, 71st To Testify

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MRS. RACHEL JACOBS FRANK, sworn for the Defendant.I am the mother of Leo Frank. I live in Brooklyn. I lived in Texasthree years, where Leo was born. Mr. Moses Frank of Atlanta is myhusband's brother. I saw him at Hotel Mc Alpin in New York City onApril 27th and April 28th 1913. The letter that you hand me (Defendant'sExhibit 42) I saw on Monday, April 28th 1913. It is my son's handwriting.This sheet (Defendant's Exhibit 43) is a sort of financial sheet. I hadlunch with Mr. Moses Frank at Hotel Mc Alpin on Monday, April 28th 1913.His wife read this

OSCAR PAPPENHEIMER, Sworn In For The State, 72nd To Testify

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OSCAR PAPPENHEIMER, sworn for the Defendant.I am in the furniture business. I am also a stockholder of the NationalPencil Company. I have been getting comparative sheets as tothe weekly business of the Company from Frank since March, 1910. Upto the time the Post Office distributed mail on Sunday, I used to alwaysgo to the Post Office to get my mail and always found this report on Sundaymorning. When I quit going to the Post Office on Sundays I receivedthe reports in the first mail on Monday mornings. I have here the reportfor the week ending April 24, 1913 (Defendant's Exhibit

C F URSENBACH, Sworn In For The State, 73rd To Testify

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C. F. URSENBACH, sworn for the Defendant.I married a sister of Mrs. Leo Frank. I phoned him on Friday andasked him if he would go to the baseball game Saturday. He said hedidn't know, he might go and would phone me later and let me know.On Saturday when I got home about twenty minutes to two my cook toldme that Mr. Frank had phoned and told me that he wasn't going to thegame. I saw him on Sunday, after the murder, at my house. I saw noscratches, marks or bruises on him. He seemed to be a little disturbedin mind.

MRS C F URSENBACH, Sworn In For The State, 74th To Testify

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MRS. C. F. URSENBACH, sworn for the Defendant.I am Mrs. Leo Frank's sister. I received a telephone message forMr. Ursenbach from Mr. Frank through my cook on Saturday at halfpast one. I saw no scratches, bruises, or marks on Mr. Frank on Sunday.He was nervous as one would have been under the circumstances.He borrowed a rain coat from my husband that afternoon. The rain coatwas at our house on Saturday. It was there when my husband asked himif he would wear it on Sunday. Mr. Frank did not have it on Saturday.CROSS EXAMINATION.On Sunday Mr. Frank when he was at

MRS ALEXANDER E MARCUS, Sworn In For The State, 75th To Testify

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MRS. ALEXANDER E. MARCUS, sworn for the Defendant.I am a sister of Mrs. Leo Frank. I played cards Saturday night atMrs. Selig's. Mr. Frank was there sitting out in the hall reading, andMrs. Frank was going in and out of the room. Mr. Frank went to bedafter ten o'clock. I noticed nothing unusual about him, no bruises,marks or signs.CROSS EXAMINATION.He came in one time and told me something funny about a baseballjoke. We were still playing when he went to bed.MRS ALEXANDER E MARCUS, Sworn In For The State, 75th To Testify

MRS M MARCUS, Sworn In For The State, 76th To Testify

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MRS. M. MARCUS, sworn for the Defendant.I am no relation of Mr. or Mrs. Frank. I saw Mr. Frank at half pasteight or a quarter to nine in the evening on April 26th, at Mrs. Selig'sresidence. We played cards there. Mr. Frank opened the door for us.He stayed in the hall reading. We played cards in the dining room. Hewent to bed between ten and half after ten. He appeared as natural asusual. I left the house about twelve o'clock.CROSS EXAMINATION.We had a game of cards every Saturday afternoon at somebodyelse's house.MRS M MARCUS, Sworn In For The State, 76th

M J GOLDSTEIN, Sworn In For The State, 77th To Testify

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M. J. GOLDSTEIN, sworn for the Defendant.I played cards Saturday night, April 26th, at Mrs. Selig's house, Igot there about 8:15. We played in the dining room. Mr. Frank was sittingin the hall. There was nothing unusual about him, no nervousnessor anxiety. There was nothing that attracted our attention. I havenever known Mr. or Mrs. Frank to play poker. I should say he went tobed about 10:30. His wife followed about fifteen minutes afterwards.I never noticed any marks or bruises about his person.CROSS EXAMINATION.He came in while we were playing to tell us of some joke he had read, and

I STRAUSS, Sworn In For The State, 78th To Testify

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I. STRAUSS, sworn for the Defendant.I was at the home of Mrs. Selig, Saturday night, playing cards. Igot there about 10:30. Mr. Frank let me in. While we played he wassitting in the hall reading. I could see him through the door. There wasnothing unusual about him. He went to bed immediately after I got there. His wife went to bed soon afterwards.MRS. EMIL SELIG, recalled for the Defendant.(Witness denies categorically that any of the contents of MinolaMc Knight's affidavit (State's Exhibit "J") are true). I have neverraised Minola's wages one penny since she has been with me.CROSS EXAMINATION.I didn't

SIGMUND MONTAG, Sworn In For The State, 79th To Testify

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SIGMUND MONTAG, sworn for the Defendant.I am engaged in manufacturing stationery. I am treasurer of theNational Pencil Company. The company receives its mail at my office,which is two blocks from the pencil factory. Frank comes to my officeevery day of the year to get the mail and instructions with regard to ordersand the business of the factory. He came to my office on April 26th,about ten o'clock and stayed about an hour. He talked to me, my stenographer, Miss Hattie Hall, and Mr. Gottheimer, one of the salesman. Up to about a year ago I went to the factory almost