DR CLARENCE JOHNSON, Sworn In For The State, 192nd To Testify

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DR. CLARENCE JOHNSON, sworn for the State in rebuttal.

I am a specialist on diseases of the stomach and intestines. I am a

physiologist. A physiologist makes his searches on the living body; the

pathologist makes his on a dead body. If you give any one who has

drunk a chocolate milk at about eight o'clock in the morning, cabbage at

12 o'clock and 30 or 40 minutes thereafter you take the cabbage out and

it is shown to be dark like chocolate and milk, that much contents of any

kind vomited up three and a half hours afterwards would show an abnormal

stomach. It doesn't show a normal digestion. If a little girl who

eats a dinner of cabbage and bread at 11:30 is found the next morning

dead at 3 a. m., with a rope around her neck, indented and the flesh sticking up, bruised on the eye, blood on the back of her head, the tongue

sticking out, blue skin, every indication that she came to her death from

strangulation, her head down, rigor mortis had been on her twenty hours,

the blood had settled in her where the gravity would naturally take it in

the face, she is embalmed, formaldehyde is used and injected in the various cavities of the body, including the stomach, a pathologist takes her

stomach a week or ten days after, finds cabbage of that size (State's Exhibit G) in the stomach, finds starch granules undigested, and finds in the stomach that the pyloris is still closed, that there is nothing in the first

six feet of the small intestines; that there is every indication that digestion

had been progressing favorably, and finds thirty-two degrees hydrochloric

acid, and if the pathologist is capable and finds that there was

only combined hydrochloric acid and that there was no abnormal condition

of the stomach the six feet of the intestines was empty, I would say

that the digestion of bread and cabbage was stopped within an hour after

they were eaten. That would not be a wild guess in my opinion.

CROSS EXAMINATION.

The bruises on the head, the evidence of strangulation and other injuries about the head are other possible factors which must be taken into

consideration. Anything which disturbs the circulation of the blood, or

hinders the action of the nerves controlling the stomach, especially the

secretion, prevents the development of the characteristics found in normal

digestion one hour after a meal. I mean by mechanical condition of

the stomach, no change in the size or thickness, or opening into the intestines, or size or thickness of intestines. The test should be made with

absolute accuracy with these acids. The color test is generally accepted.

A man's eye has to be absolutely correct to make the color test. The degree of acidity in a normal stomach varies from 30 to 45 degrees, according to the stomach and what is in it. The formaldehyde would make no change on the physical property on the pancreatic juice found in the

small intestine after death. There would be hardly any change on its

chemical property. When it comes in contact with the formaldehyde it

is supposed to be preserved. It has some neutralizing effect on the alkali

present. That decomposes in time after death, unless hindered by

some preservative. The hydrochloric acids in the stomach also disappear

if the stomach has disintegrated and the persative8 (preservative) has disappeared. It disappears like the other fluids and tissues of the body unless hindered by some preservative agent. Sometimes digestion is delayed a good deal even in a normal stomach by insufficient mastication,

too much diluting of the juices, or anything that hinders the operation of

the mechanical effect. Insufficient mastication is one of the commonest

causes, also the taking of too much liquid. Fatigue occasioned by extensive

walking would hinder it. If the walking was not too extensive to

produce fatigue, it would help digestion in a normal stomach. Insufficient

mastication is the worst cause of delayed digestion. My estimate

was that the cabbage was found an hour after the process of digestion

had begun. I did not undertake to say when the digestion began. You

can't tell by looking at food in a bottle how much the failure to masticate

it delayed digestion in hours and minutes. It would be just an estimate.

The physical appearance of that cabbage (Defendant's Exhibit 88)

shows indigestion by the layer, character and size, and area of separa-

tion between, and the character and arrangement of the layers below.

The mere fact that it was vomited up would be proof positive that no

scientific opinion could be made about it. To make a scientific test I

would have to test the mechanism of the stomach, the time it was in there

and the degree and presence of the different acids. The chocolate milk

would not naturally stay in a normal stomach five or six hours. The cabbage

would stay in a normal empty stomach where there was a tomato

also three or four hours. I never made any test of Mary Phagan's stomach

and examined the contents of i

RE-DIRECT EXAMINATION.

160 cubic cc. of liquid in the stomach taken out nine days afterwards

would be a little in excess of what I would consider normal under the conditions already named.

DR CLARENCE JOHNSON, Sworn In For The State, 192nd To Testify

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